Host: With the amount of information accessible at our fingertips about health and nutrition and how to lead better lives, we might get caught up into things which are not scientifically proven and might not be right for us. Remember to be extra careful with your health and before starting something new like a new exercise routine or a diet plan, make sure you consult with a professional first. Welcome to the Lifelong Wellness podcast where we talk to wellness professionals from so many walks of life from around the world and get their insight to living healthier. I'm your host, Wes Malik. Today's guest is Rochel Marie Lawson. She's a registered nurse with over three decades of experience and as a health and wellness expert, she helps men and women achieve holistic balance in their lives with simple and effective system that she developed to treat her own health issues. She is a celebrated and very in-demand speaker as well and accomplished entrepreneur and provides one-on-one coaching. And she is an expert in something that we haven't spoken about on this podcast. I'll give you a hint it's a very old form of medicine. So let's talk to Rochel. Rochel, welcome to the Lifelong Wellness podcast. How are you today?
Rochel: I’m absolutely fabulous. How are you?
Host: Very good. I’ve been looking forward to talking to you since September and you have a wonderful story to tell so I just want to jump right in. It's the New Year, a lot of people are making resolutions and are here to listen to this podcast to find out how people live their lives and what's living well means to them. And I’d like to ask you that question, Rochel. What does living well mean to you, specifically?
Rochel: Well, first of all, living well means to me that you are in absolute balance with your health and well-being, in mind, body and spirit. Because when you have complete balance and you’re healthy and well, then you can actually step out into the world and do whatever it is that you want to do in a positive manner without any challenges related to health and well-being. So, it means to be healthy and well in mind, body and spirit it would be completely balanced in all of those areas.
Host: It’s easier said than done, though. I mean, staying healthy and living a balanced life, balancing work and family and of course keeping your mind and your spirit in balance as well can sometimes be a handful. How do you manage it?
Rochel: Well, say I think it's actually pretty easy to do for me and that's what I share with people I work with this how to do it all. But when you know what to do and you know your specific body type or mindset type, then you have a wealth of information that you can actually create a “plan”. Like, you know, when we want to start a business, you have a business plan. When you start looking to build a house, you have a building plan. You actually have to have a plan in order to be able to manage your health and well-being. The challenges, not the challenges but the demands of work and family in career, in social life, in managing your kids’ activity. You actually have to have a plan and without a plan, you will absolutely fail. But the key to developing the right plan for you is to actually know what your mind type is and your body type. So, it's not very difficult and if you make your health and well-being your number one priority versus all of this external stuff, materialistic things, get money and all that kind of stuff, you make your health and well-being your number one priority, that is the greatest challenge that people have when they’re not being well. If you make that your number one priority, everything else falls into place. And I can definitely say that because I have two businesses, I’ve raised kids that are super active, I’ve been involved in a lot of other external activities and things in nature and I’ve always stayed healthy well because I made that my priority and I know my mindset and I know my body type so I’ve always had a plan to help keep me balanced and not stressed while managing everything. So I just kind of fill in to synchronicity and flow for me and that's what I like to share with people.
Host: That's a great starting point because sometimes we get into things and, you know, and exercise routine, a diet or, you know, a type of lifestyle plan without, you know, charting out what our goals are or for what we intend to do. So, when you make a plan and I know you consult with your clients and a lot of people and help them get healthy and live a good life. What kind of a plan and do you make for them and how do you start planning? What are the steps? Do you have to write it down? What should we be considering to start writing a plan for ourselves?
Rochel: Well, first of all, you have to know what type of person you are. And you have to know not just the type of person you are but the type of body type you have and mindset type. And because I practice in holistic well-being and the discipline of Ayurveda, it’s all about finding what is your unique gift, I should say, or unique persona here on earth. Everybody's different, everybody has different unique persona. Even identical twins don't have the same mind type or body type. And so that is the fundamental beginning because without that, there is no way that you can know where you’re going or no way you can course correct, so to speak, any challenges that you may be having and experiencing at that current moment or that may come up. So, it’s kind of like I like to say, if a person wants to go, I'm not sure what part of the United States you’re in but in California if a person wants to go, say to Yosemite and then to San Francisco Bay area, if they don’t know they’re in San Francisco Bay area, how in the heck can they ever plan to get to Yosemite?
Rochel: Right? So, if you don't know what your body type is, your mind type, how in the heck can you ever prep up with a plan that’s going to work for you? And so, that’s the number one thing that I like to get people I'm aware of is because that's actually the starting point for everything that you want to manifest beautifully and fabulously into your life.
Host: Unless we have information or knowledge about body types and we can diagnose ourselves. I think we need to reach out to someone like you to understand what our body type is.
Rochel: Yes, yes. And there is a quiz that I have. It’s free, it’s absolutely free. Anybody can go and do the quiz. And what is amazing is that, a lot of people are surprised, some people are not, but a lot of people are surprised as to what turns up for them with regards to their body type and their mindset type. And here’s the other thing, you can actually have a specific body type and have a mindset type that's totally different. For instance in Ayurveda, we have the predominant body types or what they actually called are Doshas.
Rochel: And Dosha is the term at the moment of conception. So, it’s determined when that little egg left that firm caption and allows the fertilization process to begin.
Rochel: So that’s when your body type, mindset type is completely, you know, that’s when it’s developed.
Host: So, it’s in our DNA?
Rochel: Yes..Sort of, kind of, not really.
Host: Okay. So, we’re kind of born with the body types that we have and our mind types that we have?
Rochel: So, the body types, the predominant ones in Ayurveda are Vata, Pitta, and Kapha. And so Vata is, if you think of Vata you think of the air and ether is free flowing and it’s changing, you know, it’s unpredictable, right? Pitta is more of fire, is transformative so you have the composition of fire. And then Kapha is earth composition and water. So, little bit more stable, sturdy, not as ever changing. You know, doesn’t flow like the wind. So, based on those body type composition and there is a primary, a very predominant one, then everyone has generally a secondary and tertiary one. But the predominant one, say for instance I’ll just say for instance for me, my dosha, my body type is Pitta.I’m predominantly full of fire.
Rochel: So everything I need to do to keep myself balance is to keep the fire within me balanced. Now, my mindset type is also Pitta but I have a little Vata that flows in there as well. So, when I’m out of balance, for instance, I’m prone to, I might get angry or easier or I may not be able to focus because Vata is coming and like the wind, it’s ever-changing, it can change on a dime so I may not be able to focus like I necessary need to do. And so, based on that information and how you process things, it’s a little bit more complex than what I'm saying. But how you process things, all is about determination of your mindset, your mind and your body type. And the two can be different or they can be the same. But that’s the first start in finding out how you can go forth and do whatever it is you want to do to set up a plan for your life, to have all this balance and stuff. And to accomplish things is knowing what your mind is and how your body type is.
Host: Your quiz. Is it available on rochelelawson.com?
Rochel: It’s available, you can go to www.youruniquebodytype.com .
Host: I see, okay. Is this quiz long?
Rochel: No, it’s not long. Probably it will take you less than five minutes.
Host: Okay. youruniquebodytype.com.
Host: Okay, very interesting. Now, once we have that, you know, settled and we know our body type and our mind type according to the Ayurvedic knowledge, what's the next step in planning?
Rochel: Then the next step in planning is determining what actually is the goals for the individual. So, I may see based on, of course I will have, you know, a thorough conversation with the individual to see exactly what they’re looking to do, what they’re looking to improve. Everybody is focused on something different. So, my thing is not cookie cutter. And that’s the epic beautiful thing of Ayurveda, it’s not cookie cutter. I’m not going to give you the same program or the same plan. We’re not going to create the same plan as I did for the last hundred people I worked with.
Rochel: Yeah. Your plan is unique for you because you are a unique individual. So for instance, I’ll give you a quick example. When a person goes to a physician and they have high blood pressure or they’ve been diagnosed with blood pressure, 99% of the time they’re going to get the same high blood pressure medication at the last thousand, two thousand, whatever, people that this physician has seen with this condition. They’re going to start there. There’s no unique individuality with that. And everybody has different reasons as to why they may have high blood pressure, why they may be registering a high blood pressure at that time. It could be a problem with the kidneys, they might be developing congestive heart failure, it could be that they’re just actually stressed, it could be that they just ran in to make their appointment on time. It’s a variety of things, but the physician will give everybody the same form of medication in the beginning and then they may curtail it but it doesn’t change. It’s not unique, it’s not individualized. It’s “This is it. This is what you take. Let’s see how it works” and then five medications later you still have high blood pressure because they’re just following a protocol of what they've done for everybody else that's coming to them and not necessarily following your unique needs and what you actually need to correct the imbalance within your cardiovascular system to get the blood pressure under control. So, that is why I say Ayurveda is beautiful because it uniquely treats each individual as the unique, beautiful individual that they are. So, you find out your body type, you have a conversation with me, we figure out where you want to go, we require what you want to work on and then I don’t create the plan, we create it together because what my goals or what I might have or want to see you do, that may not be what you want to focus on. You might want to focus on another area first. So, we create the plan that’s best for the individual so that they can be successful, so that they can see results and so that they can have more harmony in their mind and body so that they don't set up like gateway as I like to say for illness and disease to manifest.
Host: You’ve been a nurse for two over two decades in your holistic professional and very knowledgeable about Ayurvedic medicine as well.
Host: I have no idea what Ayurvedic medicine is and I would love to pick your brain about it. And I would love to know a little bit more about what this is? What is Ayurvedic?
Rochel: So, yes I’ve been a nurse for a long time. Actually, almost this year it’ll be three decades.
Host: Wow! Congratulations.
Rochel: I know. I don’t know how’s that happened because I’m only twenty-nine years old. (laughing) I don’t know how that happened, but Ayurveda is a holistic medical modality that originated in India somewhere between 3500 to 7000 years ago. It is the precursor for all medicine that those practices today, even Chinese Traditional Medicine. The definition of Ayurveda is the knowledge or science of light. Everything within Ayurveda is utilizing the goodness of the Earth to bring forth balance and harmony in the mind, body and spirit. And it focuses on the mind, body and spirit in the unique individuality of each individual here on earth.
Rochel: So, it's all focused on basically in maintaining a homeostasis or balance within the mind and body. When you are completely balanced in those three areas, you don't have a gateway or a crack in the door, so to speak, for illness and disease to come in. So, it's really focused on preventative medicine, so to speak, utilizing herbs and other natural remedies and detoxification processes and abundance of other modalities and remedies that go forth with Ayurveda to keep the body in balanced state so that you don't have that crack in the door so illness and disease can come in. I’d just have it really simplistic but basically it is curtailed to each individual's unique Dosha or body type and that's what makes it so beautiful.
Host: When you say the goodness of the earth, does it mean that Ayurvedic has specific foods that you're supposed to eat or do specific exercises? I'm assuming because it's from the subcontinent, is there something with yoga attached to it?
Rochel: Yes. So, yoga is the sister science of Ayurveda.
Host: Oh, okay.
Rochel: Yes. So, yoga is the physical aspect of Ayurveda. Again, when you’re in those asanas, you’re actually doing things for your body and they’re certain asanas that were better for the different Doshas. Also, another thing that I’ve done in the past is create a whole yoga program, sequence so to speak, for the individual that is really interested or does yoga. Create a whole yoga sequence for them that’s specific to their Dosha or body type so that when they're doing their asanas, it is actually helping to maintain homeostasis within their mind and body because it's specifically working with their unique Dosha or body type. So, yes Ayurveda is, I would say encompassing all that and yoga is the physical aspect and the sister science of Ayurveda. The two go hand-in-hand.
Host: Now, who can this help? I understand that you were suffering from an ulcer and medicine did not fix it and you cured it holistically and through Ayurveda. What other examples? I mean, who is this for? What kind of ailments or what kind of issues does it help with?
Rochel: So, Ayurveda is for everyone. There is no limitation, it’s for everyone. It’s for the healthy, the one’s that’s healthy and for those that are having wellness challenges that want to get better. So, it’s absolutely for everyone. And I particularly had a digestive issue that I’d suffered with for 17 years and Western medicine could not…One, they could never diagnose it but they were quick to give me a prescription, but they can never diagnose it. And two, it wasn’t until, I’d like to say got a down low so to speak while I was meditating that I got complete sequence on how to heal myself. So, I was able to heal myself using the principles of Ayurveda in 9 months after suffering for 17 years. And the beautiful thing is, it was without any pharmaceutical medication.
Host: Really? No medicine at all?
Rochel: No medicine. Not in a pharmaceutical…I want to say not in a pharmaceutical sense because I did take herbs and other essential oils and other things but they were all in the natural state. So, I literally could go outside and pull some of the herbs that I was taking because it's in abundance, you know, here on planet earth. So, it is for everyone. If you have a cardiovascular issues, if you’re having heart issues, if you’re having neurological issues, if you have suffer from adrenal fatigue, if you are a woman that’s premenopausal, menopausal or postmenopausal, it can help you with that. If you have respiratory issues, in fact Ayurveda has seven specific disciplines, just like Western medicine, seven specific disciplines that deal with aspects of our body. So, there's the surgical aspect, there’s an aspect that focuses strictly on geriatrics and gerontology, there’s an aspect that specifically focuses on female reproductive health or reproductive health for males and females, so paediatrics. There's specific, I want to say subset, but there’s specific specialties within Ayurveda, the whole umbrella of Ayurveda itself. So, it is for everyone. I’ve had worked with people from having issues with cardiovascular to neurological to female reproductive, to male reproductive issue, respiratory, just about every gamut I work with, people from all that have challenges in all areas. And the wonderful thing is, I love to see them transition as they become healthier and well because it’s beautiful. It’s subtle, it’s very subtle but when the “light broke comes on” and they realize, “My God! I’m not doing this. I don’t feel this. I’m able to sleep at night” or “I have more energy” or “I can walk up 4 or 5 stairs without any shortness of breath” or “My blood pressure is within normal limits now. It’s actually lower than…I’m surprising my physician” or “I lost that 30 lbs” or whatever it is. It’s amazing to see people's transformation and it's really beautiful when I see it in them and they realize it. So, yes, yes, yes. It’s for everybody.
Host: You help people feel fabulous as well. And you work on, you know, the mind and the thinking part of, you know, people's holistic life. Now, tell me about the process. How do you make people feel fabulous?
Rochel: Again, it’s first of all, we have to, you know, if your mind is not right and your body is not balanced, there’s nothing I can do for you. So, we have to get you in a balanced state and again we go through the process of finding out where your imbalances are and then once we figure out what your imbalances are, we go forward with making sure we are working on correcting those imbalances so that things become balanced. Once you’re balanced in an unbalanced state, you will feel absolutely fabulous. And I jokingly say I’m 29.
Rochel: But I’m well over 29. In fact, I have a 29-year old son so I’m well over 29. (laughing) But when people see me, they think I’m 29.
Rochel: And its’ because I make sure that I make my health and well-being my number one priority no matter what because I know what it is to have a wellness challenge. And for that wellness challenge to take a toll, I have family members that have died from wellness challenges. Our family members and set of friends, things that make you…So, I know the importance and as a clinical nurse, doing emergency room trauma nursing, I’ve seen the good, the bad and the very, very ugly or when you’re unhealthy and unwell. So, it's just making it a priority in your life. You can have all the money in the world and I remember working at a big HMO up here in Northern California. And I’ve had several influential people coming as my patients that were really sick. And one gentleman, I’m not sure if he’s still living but he’s pretty sick. He was the CEO in one of this major technology corporations and he was just like enthralled that for one he thought I was like 15. It was so funny. I was way, way over 15 and he was really a sick guy. And he said to me that “If I can give you all my money to have that radiance that you have, the exuberance for life to be healthy one like you. If I can do that and give you what you have, I’ll give it to you today.” I said, “We can try it!” (laughing) But, you know, here’s the thing, people don’t value their health and well-being until they don’t have it.
Rochel: And my goal is to not have anyone not experience the challenges of not being healthy and well because the road to redemption, so to speak, and get them turn back to a healthy and well state, for some people can be quite challenging and can take a little while. Remember, you didn’t get sick overnight. You didn’t develop this illness or disease overnight. It was slow methodical process and as this illness and disease was manifesting, it was giving you all kind of signs you just wasn’t paying attention. It’s like driving again from the Barry to Yosemite and following the signs and you still end up at LA. Okay? You’re not following the sign. And the more you don’t follow the signs, the louder you body and mind will speak to you until you completely continue to ignore it and then guess what? You manifest an illness or disease. So, the whole goal for me is not to have anybody go through that. And if you’re already having a challenge with your health and well-being, and I would like to call them challenges because a challenge is like a problem, it can be fixed, they can be solved especially if you get to it in time before this, you know, irreversible damage. So, if you can get to that point when you start thinking about putting your greatest asset, your greatest piece of wealth which is your health and well-being first, everything else in your life will fall into place. Everything.
Host: As a health practitioner you meet so many people and as a holistic coach you again guide and coach a lot of people through your website and one to one. You do a lot of speaking engagements, so I'm sure you come to contact with the large crowds and meet with people. What are the common mistakes you think people are making with their lives when it comes to health, body and mind?
Rochel: I think that a common thing with people is they’re not valuing it quite frankly. It’s pure and simple. I’ve seen it. I’ve been doing this for 30 years, I’ve seen it. People would spend 10, $20,000 of some get-rich scheme or something that they think will help them make more money in their business but they won't spend $500 and put it into their health and well-being. And when they do do that, generally, it's because they’ve manifested illness and disease and is taken a toll on them. So, I say the number one thing is people don't value their health and well-being until they don't have it.
Host: And that's a very important message to everyone that you should value your health while you have it. And even if there is a problem that you are facing I'm sure with the right help you can correct the challenges that you face.
Rochel: Most definitely.
Host: And there's always somebody to help out and you just need to reach out to the right person in your local area or even, you know, nationwide or international even. So, all these things combined, what interested you initially into Ayurvedic medicine? Why didn't you pick up something else? What drew you to this specifically?
Rochel: Well, first of all when I was doing my, so to speak, releasing of my illness, I had no idea it was Ayurveda. I have been doing this stuff since I was a kid because I just want to feel better. When I started this journey when I was eight years old so I just wanted to feel better and I read a lot. So, I would read about something and I would try to see if it work. You know, over the course of the years, I’m Type A personality, highly but secretly competitive, grew up as the only girl in all boys family, the only granddaughter on both sides, surrounded by a lot of male energy, I was a track and field athlete, I was a cheerleader, I was you know, I was the Be-All, Do-All kind type of girl but I just never felt well. There were days I just really didn't feel well, but I would never let that show because I didn’t want that to interrupt the flow of my life. So, I had been picking up different techniques over the course of my year, my years of suffering. When I got the down low, when I was meditating, again I had no clue that it was Ayurveda-based. I just knew that, well I’ve tried everything else and hasn’t work. So, you know, it’s not going to hurt to try something else. Perfectly, by the nine step that I was given. So, not until I want to say, maybe 10 years later, I was reading something and the light bulb same like the page just lit up because everything that I had did to heal myself was in this book about Ayurveda.
Rochel: Yes. So, like detoxification, meditation and then utilization of herbs and all that kind of stuff. And I was like, Oh my God! So then that really pick my curiosity and I want to dive in deeper and find out more about it and I find out more about it and I enrolled in some programs and it was really just that what was doing and start utilizing it with my kids, although they would stay healthy and well because they have me. (laughing) But, that’s what I realized was like, “Oh my gosh! This is something that needs to be shared.” So, I also started utilizing in it and sharing it with my patients in the emergency room. And I will have them come back. Now, I work 11 PM to 7 AM, so if someone is coming back in the middle of the night just to see me, it was quite profound. So I would have people come back in the middle of the night to thank me for what I shared with them because it make a difference in their health and well-being and made a difference in their life. And that’s when I knew that I was on to something beautiful, wonderful that was encompassing of both Western and Eastern medicine and thank it for to bringing healing to the world.
Host: When you mentioned Ayurvedic herbs, is this something like turmeric and cumin kind of stuff like that or stuff from India or commonly available here?
Rochel: So, Ayurveda does use herbs and spices. Turmeric is a spice and cumin is, too, which is their great digestives. Turmeric is a great anti-inflammatory; it’s so good for you.
Rochel: But there is utilization about herbs, spices, oils detoxification processes, meditation, a whole gamut of natural remedies that can really be so yummy to the body. In fact, there’s this treatment that I did called Bliss Therapy Treatment.
Rochel: So, when you think of bliss, think of a moment of ecstasy, basically leave it there. And so, that’s the premise of this treatment I do. And it’s funny because the women are all like, “Oh yes! I want it all!” (laughing) And it’s a 4-hour treatment and the guys were kind of like, “Well, no, no. I want, no..” But they’ll go through it all and 100% of the time people have said, “Oh my God! That was amazing!”
Rochel: They don’t want to leave, they would feel rejuvenated, restored, balanced and it’s pretty much, I hate to use the word addicted, but they become addicted and they want it more and more. They want it because it is really nurturing and rejuvenative to the body. And so, when you think of bliss, think of that moment of ecstasy. Who would not want to feel bliss everyday?
Host: I’d like to. It’s a great feeling. Yeah.
Rochel: Yeah, so that’s the premise of what I do with regards to helping people to understand. You can have this and you can have this with the Bliss Therapy Treatment and you can have it on a daily basis. Not as intense as the Bliss Therapy Treatment but you can definitely can be in a state when you know what to do and you have the plan, the game plan for helping you to stay healthy and well. That’s uniquely designed for you.
Host: Your videos, your blogs, your speaking engagements, a lot about your life, the contact page, your enrollment page is all available on rochelelawson.com that's R-O-C-H-E-L-E-L-A-W-S-O-N.com
Rochel: Actually, it’s available on blissfulliving4u.com.
Host: If we take a look at your speaking engagements from several years ago, it does really seem that you found the fountain of youth. (laughing) What does your day look like in terms of eating and like exercise and you work the graveyard shift as well and you have a tough job. It’s one of the most demanding and stressful jobs in the world. What does your day look like? I'd love to know. In fact, everyone would love to know.
Rochel: So one, I’m no longer in clinical practice as an emergency room trauma nurse. And two, my day is very busy because I do have two businesses. I have a corporation that I’ve owned for 30 years. My first, I guess love, was engineering. So I have an Electrical Engineering Degree and I started the company in 1989 in Silicon Valley which is still in existence today. My passion is health and well-being so I started blissfulliving4u.com in 2008 to help those that are looking to improve their health and well-being. So, my day is a busy day. Our kids are grown and I have grandkids but my day is busy but is very succinct and it’s not busy or stressful to me at all. Even when I worked in the emergency room and I had the patient that had the 5 gun shots or the trauma victim, it wasn’t stressful to me. So, typically, I get up, you know, I read, I take in room temperature water with a little bit of lemon to kind of wake up my digestive system that's been sleep, that’s been dormant, not really dormant. It’s working but the fire is not rubbed up, so to speak. So, I do that. And then I read, I meditate and then I pretty much start my day. I would either do a bliss smoothie in the morning, which has this special recipe that I created for people with Dosha type like me. And then drink lots of water throughout the day. I exercise, I go to the gym at least 3 to 4 times a week and get in at least an hour to 1 ½ hour exercise. Sometimes I do that, take a break and do that during lunch to reset, recharge, revitalize my mind. And sometime I do that at the end of the day. Come back in and do my work, have a nice lunch and generally I like to eat salads, depending on the time of the year or soups like this time I use cooler so I like to eat soups and things to that nature. I don’t snacks really too much. If I snack, you know, it’s a piece of fruit. I love cashews and cashews are really good for you or almonds are really good for all of the body tissues. So I do snacks like that if I do snacks. And then I have a nice dinner. It’s pretty much go about my day, evening, afternoon. I’ve been doing it for so long. I want to say it’s just like taking a breath of fresh air. It’s not stressful, it’s just very simplistic. It flows for me and that's what I try to help people with as well is to create a flownistic system that you can go through your day and everything is with ease and grace and you don’t have to think about it. You’re not stressing about, “Oh God! I need to eat” or whatever or “Oh! I need to exercise”. We just make it seamless and flawless for you so it's not overwhelming, it’s not stressful, it’s not demanding and you’re able to accomplish what you need to get done in the most effective and efficient manner.
Host: Thank you so much for sharing all these insights and tips, especially about Ayurveda and Ayurvedic medicine. We've never talked about that on the podcast. Wonderful to hear from a professional who studied it for so many years and explain it in such a wonderful understandable terms, you know, for the layman. Thank you so much for that. Before you leave us, would you mind giving us some wisdom that you picked up along the years, something you'd like to say to our audience?
Rochel: First of all, if I can say anything in that, I want to emphasize that you really need to make your health and well-being your number one priority. That's your greatest asset. That's your greatest piece of wealth. That I can't say that enough. I guarantee there’s someone listening is really not paying any attention to that, but that’s one thing. But the other thing is, not to believe that when you have a challenge whether, you know, problem, a crisis, whatever it is, just take in as a challenge for that moment. Don’t get so wrapped up in it where it causes so much stress that it gets you out of balance in your mind and in your body. Whatever is in your mind will manifest in your body, whether it’s good, bad or indifferent. So, when you come across a challenge, I like to say we’re all here to travel down our unique path to bliss. And everybody will have a different challenge that comes up whether they’re walking and the road becomes muddy or you have to go around the big tree or boulders or pothole or whatever it is, we all have these unique challenges. Never ever think that a challenge is something that’s meant to hold you back. It’s actually an opportunity for you to learn something and take something positive out of that. So, as you move forward down your path to bliss, the next time you come upon this challenge you have the wisdom that’s been bestowed upon you from the previous experience that allows you to handle this challenge with ease and grace and simplicity without becoming overwhelmed and stressed. So, basically I’m saying, just travel down your path to bliss, let it be your unique journey, don’t stress out over it and when you want or need additional assistance and help, whatever it maybe, there’s people like me that you can reach out to that can help you course correct, get things back in balance so that you can go forth your path back to bliss and live that dream lfe that you always wanted to do, what you always thought about when you were a kid. We’re all still kids. It’s just we’re bigger kids now but we still all have dreams to live and things that we want to accomplish. And there’s no reason why we can’t do that especially when we put the health of our minds and our body first. When you do that, all things become possible.
Host: Rochel, thank you so much for the uplifting and inspirational words of wisdom.
Rochel: Thank you so much for having me, I appreciate it.